Bingeing & Post-Election Anxiety

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Hi there, welcome to the Doc Nina show here on LA Talk Radio and Instagram. I am your host, Dr. Nina Savelle-Rocklin and I am here to help you stop counting calories, carbs and fat grams so you can easily get to a healthy weight and get on with your life. That is my wish for you. I want you to wake up and think about your day, not your diet. If youโ€™d like to join me today, the number is 323-203-0815. That is 323-203-0815. Youโ€™ll get connected to me engineer, Ronin, who will patch you through to me since we are still not in the studio due to coronavirus. But please call. I would love to hear what is on your mind, what is weighing on you. Because the real problem with binge eating, stress eating and any kind of emotional eating, the real problem is not food. The real problem is what is eating at you, what is weighing on you. So give me a call and letโ€™s sort it out.

So today is Veteranโ€™s Day and I just want to take a moment to acknowledge that Veteranโ€™s Day honors all who have served the country in war and peace. Karlygash is calling but hold on, this is really important. Karlygash, hold that thought because I just really want to say this about Veteranโ€™s Day. By the way, it was originally Armistice Day because it commemorated the day that World War II ended, so it is always on November 11th. And I just want to commemorate this day with some quotes. Then, Iโ€™m going to tie it back to food and weight and body image and also hear from Karlygash. So in honor of Veteranโ€™s Day, I just want to say a couple of quotes. โ€œWithout heroes, we are all plain people and we donโ€™t know how far we can go.โ€ Bernard Malamud. โ€œIn order to ensure proper and widespread observance of this anniversary, all veterans, all veterans organizations and the entire citizenry will wish to join hands in common purpose.โ€ Wouldnโ€™t that be great if we could all join hands in common purpose? Thatโ€™s Dwight Eisenhower.

โ€œAs we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them.โ€ Thatโ€™s John F Kennedy. And last, my favorite, you know how I love Maya Angelou. My favorite, โ€œHow important is it for us to recognize and celebrate our heroes and sheroes?โ€ Maya Angelou. So a shout out to all you veterans who are with us and not with us. Thank you for your sacrifice for this country. Okay. Karlygash is calling. Karlygash, whatโ€™s going on?

Karlygash:
Good morning.

Good morning, Karlygash. Whatโ€™s happening?

Karlygash:
Happy Veteranโ€™s Day.

Karlygash, Iโ€™m going to ask you to speak up because I can barely hear you.

Karlygash:
Do you hear me better now?

Not really.

Karlygash:
I dropped my phone into water, maybe I have problems. So I want to ask your advice. I started recently waking up in the morning, and I usually wake up like with [inaudible 00:04:30] unhappy thoughts. But then for a while, like maybe a week, I was waking up with neutral thoughts, which is positive progress. And just recently, when we talked last week on Wednesday and you told me to be supportive of myself, it really got to me. I really got it this time and I was doing this as much as I could. So now every morning-

I just want to repeat what youโ€™re saying. Itโ€™s very hard to hear you. So basically, what youโ€™re saying is last week when you called, I suggested that you respond to yourself in a supportive way, because often when we respond to ourselves, and you were responding to yourself in a very harsh way, we can end up using food or binging or using food, overeating, even eating disorder behavior of all kinds to get away from our own mean inner voices. And so what I had said to you was, โ€œTake your own side,โ€ [inaudible 00:05:36] as your family was. Family was very rejecting. Donโ€™t reject yourself. Donโ€™t say, โ€œI donโ€™t care.โ€ That was them. Take your own side and be kind to yourself. So how did it go?

Karlygash:
It went well. I did it as much as I could. I cannot say that, oh my god, I woke up then Iโ€™m only supportive in my head, no. But I definitely feel much better, much more support in my head of my own. So now, when I binge or overeat or I make a mistake or do something, I notice that I donโ€™t tell myself off. I feel like if I skip an exercise because Iโ€™m tired or because itโ€™s cold, or if I forget just to put on a fur coat because itโ€™s cold and Iโ€™m not noticing that Iโ€™m freezing, I just say, โ€œOh, of course Iโ€™m skipping exercising because itโ€™s cold and I have this trauma response and I have anxiety.โ€ Or I just donโ€™t beat myself up anymore as I used to. Before, I used to say in this mean voice like, โ€œSee, you told yourself youโ€™re going to exercise every day and youโ€™re not doing it.โ€ Although itโ€™s positive progress, I look back and I actually see that Iโ€™ve done a lot. But this critical voice made it all sound like nothing, as if I was not doing anything. Whereas now-

And Karlygash, I just have to interject and say what I notice is that the critical voice, which we talked about many times on the show, is when you say, โ€œSee you.โ€ You are you, you, you talking to yourself in second person in a really mean voice. What Iโ€™m noticing is thereโ€™s more of an I voice today. One way to find out if youโ€™re being critical is if youโ€™re talking to yourself in second person and youโ€™re doing this, when you say to yourself, โ€œYouโ€™re doing this and youโ€™re not doing this.โ€ Instead of, you donโ€™t say, โ€œIโ€™m not doing this,โ€ you say, โ€œYou.โ€ So the fact that youโ€™re even aware of that and making that change is significant.

Karlygash:
Yes, Iโ€™m very aware that Iโ€™m talking to myself in the first voice, in I voice. And itโ€™s a kind way. And I really made a decision to do so, because before I was not valuing myself, but I could love others very well. And I remember, I was dating a nasty guy like a year ago. A year ago? I donโ€™t know. And I remember I was so in love with him but he was just a narcissist and stuff, regular trauma same like my mom, rejecting, ignoring. And I remember waking up every morning with a very good feeling of love towards him. And I used to leave him very nice good morning messages full of love and support and he liked it very much.

And when I started to work on myself and you told me several times that I need to be that kind and loving to myself, it was so hard half a year ago. I was looking in the mirror and I was crying because I was saying good morning to myself, โ€œHave a wonderful day,โ€ and, โ€œI love you,โ€ and all these nice words,โ€ I was crying because I couldnโ€™t believe it and I couldnโ€™t take it in and it all felt like, not fake, but it all felt โ€ฆ And I cried because I was like, โ€œI wonโ€™t be able to do that. Itโ€™s not fair.โ€ But today, like these recent days I wake up in the morning and I tell myself, โ€œGood morning, I love you, you are so beautiful.โ€ And I notice that every morning I wake up and in my head I start telling nice things about me, I recall all the nice things and I say, โ€œOh, Iโ€™m also very intelligent.โ€ Or, โ€œOh, Iโ€™m so resilient.โ€ And I recall the events of my life when I did good, and I started just acknowledging in the morning.

It happens subconsciously, itโ€™s the moment I wake up. So instead of depressing thoughts and those critical thoughts which me up, and voices which tell, โ€œOh, you suck at this and you suck at that and look at this and look at that-โ€

โ€œYou.โ€

Karlygash:
Yeah, โ€œYou.โ€ Now, I wake up and Iโ€™m like, โ€œOh, I actually did this and it was so good. I actually found this and that.โ€ And it feels just so good. I still binge, I still overeat, but not that much. I still am just freaking out because this positive change is there [inaudible 00:10:34] logical result of all my self-work. But it just feels so new. Honestly, first time in my life, I feel good like for real inside and itโ€™s coming out by itself because the moment I wake up in the morning my conscience talks to me. Itโ€™s not me even being conscious yet. So itโ€™s a very positive thing that I wake up with good thoughts about myself. And oh my lord, Iโ€™ve been working my butt my whole life for this moment honestly and Iโ€™m giving myself pat on the back, I did such a great job and thank you so much Dr. Nina and all the girls. So my question was, how do I keep this feeling and donโ€™t binge? Because I have this good feeling, this better, kinder attitude to myself and I still go and overeat.

Well, so you are cultivating an attitude of kindness to yourself that is becoming more natural and youโ€™re feeling better, so you said you were binging less but youโ€™re still doing it. You also mentioned fear of the good, something weโ€™ve also discussed on the show, that it gets good, itโ€™s going to be taken away from you. So sometimes we resist positive change and we are actually the agents of our own destruction because weโ€™re in charge. If you make yourself feel bad because youโ€™re binging, then itโ€™s not going to come from out of the blue from somebody else. This is not logical, this is psychological. Logically, itโ€™s, โ€œHey, I can take care of myself whatever happens. Iโ€™ve been through a lot.โ€ All that stuff. Psychologically itโ€™s, โ€œOh, Iโ€™m feeling good. Thatโ€™s dangerous. Danger, danger because now something bad is going to happen to me so I better prevent something bad from happening to me because never feeling too good because Iโ€™m still binging,โ€ or by something along those lines so that the bad comes from you, not from the outside.

Karlygash:
Dr. Nina, I also noticed while you were talking, I just realized that itโ€™s very good that Iโ€™m being kinder to myself. But inside, I have this idea and feeling [inaudible 00:13:19], maybe I donโ€™t have this already pulling rug under my feet [inaudible 00:13:25] idea because I used to do it before when I was totally binging and rejecting any progress. But now, itโ€™s more like, โ€œOh, I โ€ฆโ€ So the idea and the thought is that, โ€œOh, I deserve or I can keep as much good in my life,โ€ so as if the amount of good in my life and being nice to myself is limited. So what I think is going on in my head is that I feel good in the morning, I have nice things going on for me, I do nice things, and as if somebodyโ€™s telling, โ€œEnough.โ€ And I remember my family used to tell, โ€œIf something good happens โ€ฆโ€ And Iโ€™m an emotional person. I react right away to everything. I consider myself very healthy because I have very healthy emotional response to all situations. But my family used to tell me, โ€œDonโ€™t be too excited, donโ€™t be too happy.โ€

They used to always stop this other happiness when Iโ€™m so happy and so radiant. So now, when I do have these good feelings in the morning, and then maybe I limit myself and donโ€™t let other amounts of good. So I want to do right now is to notice that I got a portion of good in the morning. And then, during the day when portions of good is coming, say I go to chiropractor, I talk to my friend or whatever, I donโ€™t limit myself to the good. I need to understand this idea that the good can last and I deserve it and I can let it in in my life and I can actually live the whole day of good things without negativity happening or [inaudible 00:15:12].

Absolutely. And you just did a wonderful job of making that association to these messages that you got as a kid, which is, โ€œOh, thatโ€™s enough good. Thatโ€™s enough good. Be careful, easy now.โ€ And so that realizing, and thatโ€™s why I say that often this work is like a psychological exorcism. Weโ€™ve got to get rid of the ideas and identifications with how you were treated so that you can create new ideas about the world. So if you can internalize this notion that you were given of, โ€œHey, thatโ€™s enough, thatโ€™s enough good for you,โ€ then thatโ€™s what youโ€™re automatically going to live by. And then, too much good, whatever too much good is, starts to make you anxious, and then boom, thereโ€™s food. So great association, giving yourself permission to change that rule. Because thatโ€™s not a rule, itโ€™s an idea. Itโ€™s an idea.

Karlygash:
So itโ€™s technically possible to live the day, the whole day having all good events coming one after another. So how do I keep it when anxiety kicks in? It would be okay if they said, โ€œOkay, enough good.โ€ No, they never said that. In this case, I at least had the thought, โ€œItโ€™s enough good.โ€ They said, โ€œDonโ€™t be happy, donโ€™t be excited, donโ€™t be [crosstalk 00:16:34].โ€

Yes.

Karlygash:
Whenever I have continuous good things happening, I have this idea kicking in which says, โ€œJust donโ€™t. Donโ€™t be happy, donโ€™t be excited.โ€ So how do I keep this positive chain of good events in my day and I donโ€™t sabotage it? [crosstalk 00:16:51]

The same way that you were able to stop the second person critical mean voice. When you say, โ€œOh, donโ€™t be too happy,โ€ the you isnโ€™t being said, but whoโ€™s talking? Youโ€™re not saying, โ€œI canโ€™t be too happy.โ€ Youโ€™re saying, โ€œDonโ€™t be happy.โ€ So wait a minute, whoโ€™s talking? Whereโ€™d that idea come from? And you actively have to challenge that idea. โ€œNo, that is an idea that I reject. I reject that idea.โ€ And by the way, this is a lot of work at first. You have to think a lot to make changes. But eventually, the new way becomes the automatic way. Right now, you have an automatic thought of, โ€œDonโ€™t get too excited, donโ€™t be so happy. Donโ€™t be happy.โ€ And thatโ€™s automatic and itโ€™s familiar and it feels very real.

So right now, you have to โ€ฆ just like when you learn to play an instrument, you have to think a lot. โ€œWhich finger goes to which key or string?โ€ or whatever it is that youโ€™re learning to play. You have to think a lot about it. And eventually, you just pick up the instrument or you sit down at the piano or you do whatever and you play. So right now, when you allow yourself to hear that thought, โ€œDonโ€™t be happy, donโ€™t be too happy, donโ€™t be so excited,โ€ you just say to yourself actively, โ€œNo, I reject that idea. Would I say that to anybody else? Would I say to anybody else, โ€˜Oh, I donโ€™t get too excited now, youโ€™re just too happy there.โ€™?โ€ No, you would not. At least, I donโ€™t think you would. And just challenge it. โ€œNo, I reject that idea actively.โ€ And the more that you do, the more powerful you will feel and the less power that that idea has.

Karlygash:
Thank you. And when I reject this thought, I need another substitute of positive thought [crosstalk 00:18:56] tell myself to keep- [crosstalk 00:18:58]

โ€œIโ€™m about to enjoy my life. My birthright as a person on this planet is to enjoy life and to feel good and do good.โ€ Right?

Karlygash:
Isnโ€™t it crazy that you have to do it? What a world, the world now that is out there and people, please be kind to your kids.

Feel good, you get to feel good too. Okay?

Karlygash:
If you have like a second and minute, I would quickly [inaudible 00:19:33] people. So you listeners know about me and relationships with my family, that they actually didnโ€™t love me. But itโ€™s so weird, my whole life I thought they did. I was making myself believe so. I was walking yesterday, my evening walk. Then, I sat on the curb and I started crying because it dawned on my that my mother didnโ€™t want me. I just really understood she didnโ€™t want me. It doesnโ€™t matter that she says that she wanted me and loves me, but by all her actions sheโ€™s showing that she didnโ€™t. I was crying. It was just so hard, so painful honestly, but it liberated me. I felt liberated the moment I understood the reality, that she didnโ€™t. And it all fell in place now, itโ€™s all now logical, her actions, her words. And actually, facing that painful reality liberated me because [inaudible 00:20:30], โ€œOh, now it makes sense. Because she didnโ€™t want me and didnโ€™t love me she did this, this, and that.โ€ Itโ€™s not me.

Yes, thank you for bringing that up, thatโ€™s so important, that we are not a reflection of how we are treated. It is painful and horrible to come to the realization that you are not wanted.

Karlygash:
But itโ€™s liberating too.

But it doesnโ€™t make you unlovable, unlikable. It doesnโ€™t mean thereโ€™s anything wrong with you. So thank you for this update, Karlygash. Keep us posted. And I know you can do this, youโ€™ve got this. Youโ€™re going to talk back to that voice that says, โ€œYou donโ€™t get to enjoy your life.โ€ You get to create a new rule. You know how Bill Maher is always like, โ€œNew rules!โ€? Well, you get to make new rules and that will be exciting to see. So I look forward to hearing from you next week [inaudible 00:21:30] update.

Karlygash:
Thank you so much. I will call you. After I talk to you, honestly now the change is so rapid, so fast. Thank you so, so much.

Youโ€™re welcome.

Karlygash:
I am forever grateful to you.

Bye, Karlygash, thank you.

Karlygash:
Bye.

So Josh on Instagram is saying, โ€œTrump will not say that he lost, he never will, heโ€™s behaving exactly like a narcissist would act.โ€ I would say malignant narcissist. But that brings me to a topic that has been coming up a lot, and that is how to deal with post-election anxiety. So the outcome of the โ€ฆ And by the way, this is from an article on Healthline called How to Deal with Post Election Anxiety. If you would like to talk to me about something going on with you by the way as Karlygash just did, looking at what is eating at you, looking at the reason that you are turning to food โ€ฆ because if you are turning to food you are turning away from something else. And when we can identify what that thing is that you are turning away from, because it might be hidden, it might be unconscious, out of awareness but not out of operation, when we can see what it is and discern it, then we can fight back, then we can deal with it and food stops being a problem. So 323-203-0815, 323-203-0815 is the number to call in and say hi to me and tell me whatโ€™s going on.

All right. So this is from an article in Healthline called How to Deal with Post Election Anxiety. The outcome of the 2020 election may impact your mental health difficulty depending on where you live and which candidate you voted for. If your candidate did not win, it may affect your mental health. Your emotional health I should say. Even if your candidate did win, it may affect your emotional health. The polarization during this election cycle can play a part in what theyโ€™re calling post-election stress. And Iโ€™m seeing a lot of people report post-election stress. We had pre-election stress for just about the last four years, and now we have post-election stress. But the good news is there are ways to manage your stress post-election. Post-election anxiety can be particularly difficult when the candidate you supported didnโ€™t win. It also happens to be particularly difficult for the candidate who didnโ€™t win. The more the candidate loses by, the greater number of days of stress and depression can follow.

Did you guys know that, that actually if you kind of tie your wellbeing to whether your candidate wins or doesnโ€™t win, even if youโ€™re not conscious of making that tie, it can affect you, itโ€™s almost like you lost? So basically, in 2016, people who lived in states with a Hillary Clinton majority had a lot more mental health difficulty. And I hate the word mental health, I like emotional health. Mental health to me is like the guy outside on the sidewalk whoโ€™s having a very loud conversation with Jesus and Jesus is not there. To me, mental health has sort of a pejorative, negative stigma. I like to think about emotional health, because itโ€™s actually not so much mental, itโ€™s about emotions. So people whose candidate has lost, especially unexpectedly are at most risk for worsening of emotional health. The climate in 2020 is also so much more polarized than it was four years ago and that is contributing to a lot of post-election anxiety.

Plus, the pandemic intensifies that anxiety, it intensifies that emotion. Josh is saying the important thing is Biden did actually win. Amen to that. I am very relieved that we now will have sanity in the office. And even though these are my personal opinions, Iโ€™ve gotten a lot of emails saying, โ€œWe donโ€™t care about your personal opinions, just tell us about weight,โ€ you know what? A lot of people have been struggling with the anxiety of Trump. Iโ€™ve talked about this a lot. A lot of people have felt as if there is chaos because of โ€ฆ well, there has been chaos because of Trump. And one way of managing chaos is to transfer the chaos of the election, the chaos of all the crazy stuff thatโ€™s going on in the White House to become chaos over food, feeling as if you have no control over whatโ€™s going on in the world can become, โ€œOh, let me control what Iโ€™m eating.โ€ Thereโ€™s a displacement from feeling powerless over the insanity, the utter insanity and lack of adhering to the norms of our society, our culture, and of politics itself, that that can be displaced into a sense of wanting to be powerful over food.

So Iโ€™ve talked about that a lot. So when you factor in also that we have pandemic anxiety and now we have rising cases, itโ€™s very, very anxiety-producing. Again, food, eating, compulsive eating, stress eating, binge eating, this is not about addiction to food. This is not about food. Food is the solution to the problem, it is not the problem. If youโ€™re anxious and youโ€™re eating a bunch of carbs, guess what? Youโ€™re going to calm your body down. It is a way of self-medicating. It is also psychological. Again, transferring anxiety over one thing that you canโ€™t control onto anxiety over something else that you ostensibly can control, [inaudible 00:28:29] are actively supporting an out of control person whoโ€™s brought us just such degradation and death. We canโ€™t do much about that. Weโ€™ve already done it, weโ€™ve voted. But so many other people did vote for him. So many people said, โ€œHey, heโ€™s racist, heโ€™s misogynistic, he loves dictators, heโ€™s cruel to our allies and he sucks up to dictators, thereโ€™s no national response to the pandemic, heโ€™s done this and heโ€™s done that. He speaks horribly of other people. He calls people names. Heโ€™s a bully.โ€

So many people said, โ€œYou know what? Yes. I want four years of that. I want four more years please.โ€ Thatโ€™s also unsettling to a lot of people, including me. I will say that. Yes. People who said, โ€œNo, thank you, malignant narcissism, lies and chaos. No, thank you.โ€ Yes, theyโ€™re very happy that Biden won. We have peace, we have sanity, we have a sense of being looked after in the White House, whereas for so long weโ€™ve had a sense of being have emotional whiplash. You just donโ€™t know what heโ€™s going to do next and itโ€™s so scary and anxiety-producing and thatโ€™s led to a lot of comfort eating and, again, displacement onto taking care of โ€ฆ Iโ€™m getting some love Instagram. So thatโ€™s led to a displacement from focus on him to focus on food. Remember, if you are taking to food, if you are doing something with food that you donโ€™t like, it is for a reason. Ariel is saying, โ€œThereโ€™s so much work to be done, but having Trump leave is a huge relief.โ€ Absolutely, completely. It is a huge relief.

And yet, we still have so much going on. We have pandemic anxiety, we have an out-of-control virus. We have people who are wearing masks, we have people who are not wearing masks. Anxiety, fear, anger. Anger. I go out and I see people who are not wearing masks and I get mad. Like, I get angry. Why are you not protecting yourself and other people? Other people get mad at me. โ€œWhy are you wearing a mask? You donโ€™t have to wear a mask outside.โ€ Iโ€™ve been mask shamed more times than I want to tell you and I live in LA, I live in Calabasas, a bastion of liberalism and people are still angry about the cause. So there is anger, there is anxiety. And if we donโ€™t have a way of dealing with that anxiety, if we donโ€™t have a way of reassuring ourselves, acknowledging, validating, reassuring, calming ourselves, comforting ourselves with words, we are going to do something to alleviate that anxiety and for many of us it is food. For many people, it is food because, think about it, when youโ€™re upset, whatโ€™d your mom do? She probably said, โ€œOh, here, letโ€™s have some ice cream.โ€

Not that itโ€™s momโ€™s fault, but itโ€™s kind of momโ€™s fault or dadโ€™s or somebodyโ€™s. Somewhere along the line you learned that the way to soothe yourself is with ice cream or cookies or food or something. We are a nation that does know how to self-soothe. Josh is saying, โ€œYou might want to wear a mask even being vaccinated.โ€ Of course. I am wearing a mask and avoiding everything that I used to do until there is both a vaccine that is reliable and a cure. I am immunocompromised, I am taking no chances. What was I saying? Oh, I remember. We are a society that says feelings are scary. Youโ€™re actually weak if you have feelings and strong if you donโ€™t have them, which is absolutely backwards. Guess what? It takes strength to feel difficult, painful, upsetting emotions. It takes a lot of strength to do that, to feel yucky and to bear it. But itโ€™s easier to do when we know how to respond to ourselves, when we learn how to comfort ourselves.

When you use comfort words, you stop needing comfort food. It is not a sign of strength to deny what you feel. Thatโ€™s denial. That is not strength. By the way, Earth to Earth Two, which is currently in residence in the White House, it is not strength to deny reality. It is not strength to deny reality. Strength is to recognize reality and to process it and work through it and feel your feelings. And what does that look like? People are like, โ€œI donโ€™t know how to feel my feelings. What are you talking about, feel your feelings?โ€ Because a lot of times people think theyโ€™re feeling their feelings when theyโ€™re just thinking their feelings. Thinking your feelings goes along the lines of when we think about someone who told me that she was feeling her feelings but she was really thinking her feelings. All right, well, this is a whole bunch of people condensed into one.

โ€œIโ€™m feeling my feelings. I know Iโ€™m angry. I know Iโ€™m angry. Iโ€™m angry. Yeah, Iโ€™m angry.โ€ Guess what, thatโ€™s identifying your feelings. That is identifying what you are feeling. That is not feeling your feelings. Feeling your feelings means, โ€œYou know what? I am so pissed because this and that, and oh my god, I cannot believe โ€ฆโ€ Iโ€™ll demonstrate. I cannot believe that Trump is refusing to concede. That is upsetting, that is disgusting. It is making me sick. I am so angry. Notice Iโ€™m not just saying the words. Iโ€™m not just saying, โ€œYes, Iโ€™m very angry that he refuses to concede and itโ€™s very un-presidential, Iโ€™m very angry about that.โ€ That is thinking your feeling. Anger is actually expressing it with some oomph, when you have some vitality to your anger you are expressing anger. Sadness. Sadness is often tears. Itโ€™s not like, โ€œYes, Iโ€™m very sad.โ€ Or someone โ€ฆ Letโ€™s just go the other way. Someone who might say, โ€œIโ€™m very sad. Iโ€™m very sad because he lost.โ€ Well, thatโ€™s thinking the sadness. Going, โ€œOh my god, he lost!โ€ I canโ€™t even do it, I canโ€™t even act it. I canโ€™t even pretend to do it.

I was trying to give that other side equality but I canโ€™t do it. โ€œI am sad because, oh my gosh, that commercial with the puppies and the ASPCA and the little puppies in the rain, itโ€™s so heartbreaking. That makes me so sad.โ€ Oh, or the St. Judeโ€™s children with cancer, seeing those commercials which I saw often because election coverage was on 24/7, that made me so sad. And Iโ€™m thinking about those little faces. Thatโ€™s what sadness looks like, thatโ€™s what sadness feels like. One of my patients once said, โ€œOh, my eyes are getting watery.โ€ Well, he was crying but he didnโ€™t want to admit that he was said. He wanted to say that somehow he was biologically having water in his eyes. Thatโ€™s how we feel sadness. We cry. Sometimes itโ€™s a little bit, sometimes itโ€™s shoulder-shaking sobs. But thatโ€™s how we get rid of feelings. We have to feel them. We cannot think them away and with cannot stuff them down and we cannot starve them away and we cannot positive think them away either. The only way to get rid of feelings is to feel them.

And when you feel your feelings, you are not going to stuff them. You are not going to go to the fridge or the pantry or the drive-through or wherever to try to avoid them because theyโ€™re not there. You felt them. Josh is feeling fear because, โ€œI feel fear, Nina, because heโ€™s not conceding.โ€ Fear is, โ€œYeah. Iโ€™m scared. Iโ€™m really scared.โ€ And then express that. Whatโ€™s going to happen? Fear is, what if? So youโ€™ve got to express it. โ€œYeah. Iโ€™m scared. Iโ€™m really scared because of this.โ€ First, you acknowledge what youโ€™re scared of and then you reassure yourself. And part of reassurance is, โ€œThis is what is.โ€ What if he never concedes and what if, and what if, and what if? And we can go on with all kinds of possibilities. What is? What isโ€ฆ Josh, what is? What is, is that there are mechanisms in place to get someone who wonโ€™t concede out of office. What is, is thereโ€™s a lot of reality.

Josh is saying, โ€œCan you describe your feelings of sadness?โ€ Josh, describing it is talking about it. But if youโ€™re watching this, and I know you are because youโ€™re writing me on Instagram, you just saw me get tearful. You just saw me get tears in my eyes as I was describing โ€ฆ oh, here it comes again, as I was describing those kids with cancer. Those beautiful kids with cancer who are bald and yet like hopeful in that commercial. So you can see, if youโ€™re looking at Instagram right now or youโ€™re hearing my voice, this is how you express sadness. You feel it. You feel it. And if I were to fight it, that would be bad. I lost someone to COVID in April. And when I talked to someone who also knew her, I absolutely started to cry. And that person said to me, โ€œDonโ€™t cry. Donโ€™t cry. She wouldnโ€™t want you to cry.โ€ And I said, โ€œShe would want me to cry because I lost her and that hurts. That hurts.โ€ And she knew that crying is the way you heal. What you feel, you will heal. What you resist, will persist.

If you say, โ€œNo, Iโ€™m going to watch that commercial about St. Judeโ€™s. I am not going to let it get to me,โ€ even though it really does get to you, then what happens to your sadness? Itโ€™s there. Itโ€™s lurking. Youโ€™ve got a reservoir of sadness that youโ€™re going to try to stuff down with food. But when you say, โ€œYeah. That commercial gets me every time. I just have to think about it and I just get so teary, I get so teary, thatโ€™s how you feel sadness.โ€ And again, keep in mind that thereโ€™s a range. Thereโ€™s a range of intensity. Right now, yeah, Iโ€™m sad. Iโ€™m not shoulder heaving sobbing. Thatโ€™s a 10. On a scale of one to 10, thatโ€™s a 10. What am I feeling right now? Like a five. So keep in mind also with anger, with everything, thereโ€™s a gauge.

And sometimes, if we donโ€™t feel our feelings and we never let ourselves cry, then when we do feel something itโ€™s going to feel intense. If everything is too scary to feel, then when you let yourself feel it itโ€™s going to be a 10. Itโ€™s going to be an 11 out of 10, a 12 out of 10. If you never let yourself get mad, then you might actually get explosively angry when you give yourself the chance, when it finally gets too much. And Iโ€™ve talked myself about anger and how if you donโ€™t express it, it builds and it builds and it builds and it builds and it takes very little to put you over the top to rage. Iโ€™ve talked about this example from when I was in college with a roommate who always borrowed everything. Borrowed everything all the time.

And sheโ€™d borrow my clothes, she borrowed everything. Borrowed books, clothes, computer, everything. And one day, she reached over to my desk and sheโ€™s like, โ€œOh, can I borrow your eraser?โ€ And I said, โ€œNo!โ€ I totally lost it. I said, โ€œYou cannot borrow my eraser, oh my god! No! No, no, no!โ€ And she said, โ€œOh my god. What is your problem? Itโ€™s only an eraser.โ€ Well, it was not only an eraser. The eraser was the final straw. It was all the clothes and all the things and the makeup and the hair straightener and the this and the that.โ€ And finally, it all got so much that I blew up. Had I just, in the beginning, said, โ€œHey, you know what? Can you ask me before you borrow my straightener, not use that without asking?โ€ Or, โ€œNo, I donโ€™t want you to use that.โ€ Or, โ€œPlease, donโ€™t use my lip gloss. Ew.โ€ If I had said that from the beginning then maybe it wouldnโ€™t have escalated.

My point is that when we deny feelings and we deny them, eventually somethingโ€™s going to happen and weโ€™re going to feel it on an intense level that will feel like too much. But when we allow ourselves to feel a range like, โ€œOkay. It kind of annoys me that sheโ€™s doing that. Now, Iโ€™m irritated. Now, Iโ€™m frustrated. Iโ€™m going to say something.โ€ When we can have a range and a gauge of the intensity that weโ€™re feeling any particular feeling, whether it is anger or sadness or fear, then it doesnโ€™t go so quickly to 10, then weโ€™re less likely to use food because weโ€™re scared of feeling the feeling or because weโ€™re wanting to stuff it down, or because itโ€™s easier to get mad at ourselves for what weโ€™re eating or what we weigh than for being mad at someone else. Because there are a lot of prohibitions. Especially if youโ€™re a girl and a woman, there are a lot of prohibitions against getting angry. But boy, there is no prohibition against getting mad at ourselves.

Case and point, our future vice president Kamala Harris has no trouble being tough. When she went after Brett Kavanaugh during those hearings, boom! She was tough as nails, direct, amazing. Had she been a man, that would have been, โ€œWow. She is so direct and sheโ€™s so strong and sheโ€™s amazing.โ€ But because she was a woman, first of all it was like, โ€œWow. Can you believe how strong she is? Can you believe how direct she is?โ€ And then she gets called names. Sheโ€™s been famously called by Trump a monster. So when we get more comfortable with what we feel when we allow ourselves a range of feelings and when we can gauge the intensity of those feelings and respond by acknowledging them, by validating them, and then by giving ourselves encouragement, not dismissing them, not telling ourselves all the reasons why we shouldnโ€™t feel them, but by actually allowing ourselves to express what we feel, we are not going to use food to stuff down those feelings.

When we can self soothe, when we can comfort ourselves, when we can express ourselves with words we donโ€™t use food to express. We wonโ€™t comfort ourselves with ice cream. We wonโ€™t fill loneliness with bulky food. We wonโ€™t express anger with crunchy food. We will actually use our words to ourselves and take our own sides, self-soothe, comfort ourselves with words. Guess what? When we can do that, when you are kind to yourself, everything changes. Everything. Because food, again, is a solution to the problem. It is not the problem. If you are turning to food, somethingโ€™s going on with you. And when you take your own side and you stay curious and not critical, then youโ€™re a lot more likely to figure out what that is. And when you respond accordingly, boom, food becomes breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and snacks. And hopefully, it is yummy and you enjoy it and it is not either your best friend or your worst enemy.

So believe it or not, that is our show for today. Thank you so much for joining me hear on the Dr. Nina Show here in LA Talk Radio. And you can listen live every Wednesday at 11:00 AM on LA Talk Radio or catch me live here on Instagram as well. You can listen later on Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get podcasts. If you like the show, do me a huge favor and give me a rating on Apple Podcasts. The more ratings that we get, the more I reach people in their searches and the more I get to help people, which is, what I really, really want to do is help people realize that theyโ€™re not food addicts. Thereโ€™s nothing wrong with them.

Itโ€™s not about willpower. Somethingโ€™s going on with you. Somethingโ€™s eating at you and thereโ€™s a way that you can change your relationship to yourself. And when you do that, you change your relationship with food for good without counting a single calorie, carb, or fat gram for the rest of your life. So thank you so much. It would mean the world to me if you gave me a rating on Apple Podcasts.

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